Hi! I recently graduated from a neuroscience PhD in which I studied the pain system of planarians (i.e. nociception and sentience in flatworms). I have been familiar with the EA movement for a few years but only within the french branch until now. I'm very friendly and eager to discuss anything, so please do not hesitate to reach me!
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Thanks, Bob! From experience and footnote n°19, mucus seems to be relatively homogeneously produced but it's actually difficult to tell the production apart from different areas of their ventral side. We usually stain the glass they were gliding on so we can see that they produced more mucus when in noxious environments, but since mucus is spread along the path of the animal, it's not clear if any part produces more than the other. When cut, we can usually see an accumulation of mucus at the site of the wound, as it has a protective role, but to me it would be better explained as some sort of inflammatory response to cell death and exposure to the environment rather than a regulatory process from the nervous system.
We have some evidence that they can react region-specifically to UV lasers where only the exposed body portion contracts/shrinks on itself, but here also we could argue that muscle contraction can be the consequence of local nerve activation (in this case: by ROS produced from UV exposition) rather than from central regulatory processes.
Maybe the best bet to search for self-representation would be in the way they extrude their pharynx to search their surroundings for food; but current evidence shows that these mechanisms are almost entirely based on chemotaxis, especially since their pharynx can basically keep searching for food and munching while cut from its host (yes, it's weird). However, there is still definitely some sort of communication between the pharynx and the brain to decide when to stop and when to continue moving.
I never tried drawing a white spot on their head and placing them in front of a mirror - maybe we should try!
Hi Vasco. I am new on this forum, so please excuse my lack of knowledge on the specifics of your work over the years. I see that you produce high quantities of seemingly high quality work on undervalued topics such as this one. I myself am very much interested in the sentience and welfare of such “primitive” organisms. Here are a few of my impressions on this post:
Thank you for sharing your work here. I do not expect you to answer thoroughly to every point I made if you do not think your time is worth it - I just felt like sharing a few thoughts on an interesting topic and participating in the forum - but I will gladly read your responses (or anyone's) if you have some.
Thanks Vasco! As per my conclusion that planarians show "substantial evidence", I would estimate the probability of sentience to be on the lower side, especially since I would weight the first four physiological criteria lower than the last four behavioral ones, and we lack research on at least three of them. Maybe 15-20% ? I don't really know how I would estimate this properly. Instinctively, I would rank planarians lower than insects but higher than nematodes (their behaviors seem less chaotic, but I'm no nematode expert). I would be more interested in finding out if these animals somehow have a "lighter" form of sentience, as I'm not fully convinced sentience (as for current definitions) is either absent or present. Planarians can move around without a head, but they definitely do better with one. So, is there some sort of cognitive emergence only possible in the brain ? I have no idea. I looked at the estimates from the book and it checks out as slightly lower probablity than insects. I would be interested to have the estimates from those that read this post too!
Planarians can definitely be considered numerous as we can find some almost anywhere.
I could not find any estimates for total numbers of individuals or colonies. Here again, instinctively, I would assume that they are still way less numerous than nematodes or even insects. Because
they are very small (usually around 1-2 cm depending on the species)they move very slowly and feed on detritus or other very small invertebrates (and thus they don't proliferate so much), and although they are very small, are known for regenerating and being able to multiply exponentially, they do not seem to form large colonies in the wild. You can find a few under some rocks or dead leaves if you search for them in most river, but I would not consider this "abundant".edit: I corrected my mixed up train of thought.